In Episode 264 of The Menace Podcast, host Dennis James was joined by Milos Sarcev and Jose Raymond together with particular visitor Shawn Ray, who acquired right into a heated debate with ‘The Thoughts’ about what number of affirmation rounds, and even opponents there must be in an Olympia closing. The icon even questioned whether or not bodybuilding was a sport, severely stressing out Sarcev.
The conflict occurred when Shawn Ray, who has competed in 13 Olympia finals, reaching a peak place of second place, disagreed with the previous Mr Universe about what number of affirmation judging rounds there must be when the winner might be already selected the day earlier than the ultimate. As a hardcore bodybuilding fan, Sarcev mentioned that the variety of affirmation rounds weren’t a problem, however the total variety of opponents was pushing the size of the present too far. This drew some settlement from Ray, who concurred that there have been too many opponents within the Olympia closing, however he didn’t see a motive to maintain bringing the underdogs out for additional judging rounds, since they’re often far faraway from victory, and don’t promote the lion’s share of tickets anyway. It was right here that ‘The Thoughts’ talked about different sports activities like MMA, and the way any likelihood to attain some extent is of paramount significance, however Ray, who promotes the IFBB New York Professional, was having none of it.
Why Shawn Ray says Bodybuilding is Extra ‘Magnificence Pageant’ than Sport
“What my expertise has informed me is to by no means evaluate bodybuilding with some other sport on this planet,” mentioned Ray on The Menace Podcast. “As a result of it’s not. It’s not comparable. I attempt to evaluate it to Miss Universe. Whenever you get to the highest ten of the Miss Universe, no one else issues, Milos.”
Ray went on to clarify that sustaining the standard of a present is about whittling the competitors right down to the most effective of the most effective, shortly, and never spending an excessive amount of time giving “participation awards” to these on the sidelines. Sarcev grew to become extremely burdened at this comparability. “You don’t wish to evaluate bodybuilding to the opposite sports activities, and then you definitely convey a f***ng Miss Universe (comparability),” retorted the Serbian, now enraged. “It’s not a sport,” interrupted Ray.
Sarcev tried to clarify to Ray that Miss Universe was a pageant and never a sport. “It’s a pageant,” mentioned Ray of bodybuilding as nicely, placing it in the identical class as a magnificence contest. “It’s a pageant bro, it’s who appears the most effective. It’s based mostly on appears. It’s an artwork.”
Ray tried to qualify his opinion by explaining that nobody has ever requested him how a lot he can carry when he stood on the Olympia stage. “It doesn’t matter how a lot you carry,” responded Sarcev, noting that UFC fighters aren’t requested how a lot they’ll carry. “Ahhhh, get outta right here,” dismissed Ray.
Whereas each males continued to make their case, usually speaking on high of one another, the chance of those two passionate males reaching an settlement on this topic appears extremely unlikely. To look at the entire debate and determine the place you stand on this and different sizzling subjects just like the upcoming Arnold Basic, see beneath.